Joie Chitwood Statement About 15th Allstate 400 At The Brickyard
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#21 
07-28-2008 08:35 PM |
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 Cheated Dear Mr. Joie Cheetwood, I have had the Brickyard Nascar race near the top of my racing wish list and I finally had the chance due to the 1-week shift in the schedule. I am now sunburned due to the lengthly delays, thin in the wallet due to the high costs related to travel, tickets, parking and speedway food prices. I am also disturbed in the poor at best security that was nearly non-existant on Sunday. Beer sales did not have competition cautions in my section. The row usher was swearing profusely at a frickin beach ball until I reminded him that there were children present, so he swore some more and left for good. Two cautions from the end a fight broke out next to me and someone was nearly beat to death. Security stood and watched while the fans had to stop the man from killing the other. Once stopped security came and took the man away and left the other to bleed (the medical staff also watched doing nothing). Security came back several minutes later and usherd the hurt one awayleaving a three row high and 4-seat wide blood bath in the stands. The man was bleeding from several places on his face to the beat of his heart. The speedway police showed up about 30 minutes later and checked a ticket to a seat and left without investigating or discussing it with several others that had participated in the fight and still remained to drink and yell. This is not what I paid several hundred dollars to be a part of. I and the fans that were present deserve more than that pathetic statement. I would like an apology at the least. signed, waiting for someone to accept responsibility before I spend again race fan 
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#22
07-28-2008 08:52 PM |
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It's Goodyear's fault It is not the speedway's fault, Goodyear is to blame. Just like Michelin was to blame for the F-1 Indy race. We can run Indy cars on this track with Firestone tires and they do not have tire issues. Maybe Nascar should use Firestone tires for IMS or other races.
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#23
07-28-2008 08:56 PM |
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re: Whatever Shoot I paid $87 a peice for my 4 tickets, plus $40 for parking, plus another $100 for gas and another $250.00 for souviners. What the heck did I get for that money? Well let's see, a few sovoniers, and a BIG fricking headache of cautions. Next year they should change the name to the Brickyard Cation 400! I have allways defended NASCAR and the Brickyard 400, but in this case, I can't and will not defend them! That was such a good waste of a race!
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#24
07-28-2008 09:41 PM |
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re: Whatever Quote: Originally Posted by Brian Greaney I emailed IMS to ask for a refund or credit to the next event, as we all know "pacing" is not racing. They told me they ran 400 miles, so their commitment to was complete and said contact Goodyear or Nascar. Who is in charge at Indy? Real Nice - See you in 2009 -NOT!! Well I got to say!!!!!!! I was ready when the green flag dropped... yes Nascar and Goodyear made a poor selection of tires for the brickyard 400! But what alot of you all have to remember is we all make mistakes.....this is dumb....First off Anyone who blames Indy is retarted and wants a refund I drove more then most of you people the atomosphere was amazing all the Brickyard people were EXTREMELY NICE! SO JUST LAY OFF INDY....ok yah Nascar made a poor choice but it wasnt the tires it was the COT car It weighs more on the right side and reacts different! Goodyear blame them to but why? I PAYED ALOT TOO PEOPLE AND I HAVE 2 SAY YAH THE RACE WASNT THE GREATEST.......BTW INDY IS AMAZING....PLEASE JUST DROP IT FOR US WHO WANT TO SEE ANOTHER BRICKYARD 400....AND THE REASON FOR THE CAUTIONS WAS FOR SAFTEY!!!! I WAS A DALE SR FAN AND I DONT WANNA SEE SOMEONE KILLED AGAIN!!!
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#25
07-28-2008 09:48 PM |
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excuses i agree with alot of you. rediculous, just another example of how major corporations screw us over and all we can do is bend over and take it. All ive been hearing is whos to blame blah blah blah, safety safety safety. come on lets stop with the excuses. this was my first trip to IMS, for the reason of the layout of the track but my wife wanted to go so i spent the money to take her to her first nascar race. nascar all i hear is how nascar is about driving in circles, and ive done nothing but defend it to critics. on how its so much more, its about pit strategy, car setup, gas mileage, tires, and etc. and at the allstate 400 nascar took every bit of that away. it was a very poor bud shootout is what it was. i think the only one to blame is nascar. tire problems so what, letem race they knew after the first caution how often they needed tires why not just letem race and obviously they would be pitting under green alot. would have made for alot better race. for some reason nascar wants to hold these drivers hands but for everyones sake come on their racing at almost 200mph before to long their not only gonna have speed limits on pit road theyll have speed limits on turns, safety is one thing and i believe thats very important but when its so much that they actually take the race away from the fans is a ripoff. i guarantee you first thing tuesday morning im calling for a refund. I suggest all of you do too. they have not only screwed us fans but they hurt the drivers as well and conned them out of money. money back or class action. we pay to see a race and there is no way that was even close to a race. im ashamed, and i would think IMS would be doing something about this as well. but hey what do they have to lose right they got what they were in it for money right? well i promise you somones paying.
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#26
07-28-2008 10:21 PM |
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IMS / Nascar / Goodyear can't hold a tune. If the 3 parties (NASCAR / GOODYEAR / IMS) involved, knew they could not have a 160 lap event, then they should have cancelled the event. Would you expect to go to a Toby Keith concert only to hear him hum the music and not sing the lyrics? No, they would cancel the event! We need to have some accountability by NASCAR to make sure they place a quality product. I paid $90 ( x 8) per ticket and did not see a contiguous 160 lap event, but numerous 8 lap heats. Robin Pemberton of NASCAR made the statement that this was as good of a race as they have had here before??? Does he mean that PREVIOUS RACES here were FIXED??? This just played into Tony George's hand to encourage motorsport fans to leave the falling popularity of NASCAR and move BACK to INDYCAR! Watch out NASCAR, you need rectify this major public relation disaster.
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#27
07-28-2008 11:49 PM |
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Thanks IMS I thought the weekend was going well... all up until raceday. I have been to the brickyard for the last 12 years, I have never seen a race like this. that is if you would even call it a race. Usually every year i look forward to the weekend of the brickyard, next year im going to look forward to finding a new track and a new race to attend. With gas prices the way they are these days, I wish i would have taken a different vacation. THANKS IMS wont see you next year
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#28
07-29-2008 04:13 AM |
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re: re: Whatever Quote: Originally Posted by Josh W ...PLEASE JUST DROP IT FOR US WHO WANT TO SEE ANOTHER BRICKYARD 400.... Shouldn't be a problem to see another Brickturd, sounds like there will be plenty of seats, hell have mine, I won't be there.
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#29
07-29-2008 07:00 AM |
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IMS- SUCKS First time at Indy and definatley my LAST....NASCAR has big issues and has Cheated several thousand fans again....WHEN WILL IT END....I'm a Hendrick fan and dictating a race in this fashion is UNACCEPTABLE....Get rid of GOODYEAR....others are awaiting in the winds....
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#30
07-29-2008 08:19 AM |
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brickyard pitstop challange Tony,you have my upmost respect on all the matters that you deal with in reguards to the Motor Speedway and the IRL> Thanks for being a stand up guy and innovator.I have worked at Eli Lilly for 35 years and am thinking of retiring soon and would be a honor to join your buisness. Mark Friedman
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#31
07-29-2008 10:32 AM |
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no blame only answers instead of casting blame, maybe ims/nascar/goodyear should consider adding a goodyear tire compatible race to the undercard. i dont think the oreilly guys would give up their race so maybe the arca series could get some sunshine. i think the alms series runs at watkins glen so there is another choice. i was at the formula one race where they pullled off the course instead of running and it wasn't a fun day for anybody.
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#32
07-29-2008 12:09 PM |
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Rental of Track Does no one here know that NASCAR rents the track for the race each year? IMS has very little to do with everything and in no way should be to blame for Sunday. That's what tire tests are for. If they didn't accomplish anything, maybe they should have done it when the conditions were a little more like race day.
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#33
07-29-2008 12:32 PM |
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Tony where are you? Tony needs to make a statement about what happened this weekend. Nascar needs to let the driveres and teams speak their minds, it is pretty amazing how everyne has the same attitude toward what occured, like maybe they were told what to say! Goodyear needs to pull their heads out of their a$$es and say they did not carry through with the proper testing! This is a joke, IMS will lose a lot of money next year if someone does not come out and give the facts and place some blame, someone who knows real racing..........where are you Tony?
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#34
07-29-2008 12:39 PM |
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re: MIGHT? Quote: Originally Posted by blake "We will continue to work with NASCAR and Goodyear before next year's Allstate 400 at the Brickyard. If more testing is needed, we will make the facility available in an effort to present a safe, competitive race for the fans in 2009." CONTINUE to work with?!?!? Did you ever start?!@?! Did you dissappear after taking our money and saying "Gentlemen, start your engines"?!?!? "IF" more testing is needed?!?!!?! This your first try at running a speedway!!!????? This is enough for me to cancel our annual trip to the now laughable "Great American Race". It is an insult to racing and AMERICA!!! Shame on you Ms. Chitwood....early retirement (like TODAY) should be considered! First off, "Ms Chitwood" is actually a MAN. He has worked for the track for many years and is not new at his. Second, the IMS is not to blame for this. Nascar decided to pull the open test at IMS for the first time this year. It is also the first year for the COT at the track. The track surface has been the same since 2005. No tire problems then. The car has changed and the tires have changed. Nascar and Goodyear need to work together to find a solution. IMS will continue to give full access to the speedway for Nascar and Goodyear to test. I do not understand how so many people are not smart enough to use common sense and see this is obviously not IMS's fault.
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#35
07-29-2008 01:03 PM |
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Nascar = Business This is a much bigger issue than this one race. I have to admit that I am not a Nascar fan. Unfortunately to get any news about any other racing you have to learn about Nascar due to the saturation of the media. With that said, Nascar is a business and this business released a new product in the “COT”. The original plan was to fully run the COT in 2009 not 2008. The plan was to run and perform comprehensive testing through 07 and 08 to ensure a proper release in 2009. The issue that occurred at IMS is due to a mere poor business decision. A few tests went well with the COT at in 07 at very familiar tracks and Nascar decides to take the gamble by running the full 08 schedule with the COT. Issues are bound to happen when a new product comes out in any industry with limited testing, time constraints, and outside influences. The four corners at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway have been challenging drivers for nearly 100 years and there have been many surface changes in that time. IMS has been the test bed for innovation in the automotive industry for years and it is unfortunate that Nascar did not take advantage of one of the toughest tracks on the schedule to really test the COT. It is sad for the 250K folks that came to Indy for an exciting weekend and were let down but really the issue is internal to the governing body of Nascar. Josh Indianapolis
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#36
07-29-2008 01:09 PM |
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re: Joie Chitwood Statement About 15th Allstate 400 At The Brickyard Quote: Originally Posted by IMS PR A statement from Indianapolis Motor Speedway President and Chief Operating Officer Joie Chitwood about the 15th Allstate 400 at the Brickyard on Sunday, July 27 at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Read Full Story I have been attending the 500 for 42 consecutive years and the 400 from day one. There is no excuse for the sad situation that was experienced by everyone this last Sunday. Shame on you folks, for allowing NASCAR and Good Year, to make a joke out of the legendary Indianapolis Speedway. I can only assume that Good Year and NASCAR consider the 400 such a trivial event that tire and team testing thereof is not necessary. Thank-you NASCAR, Good Year and Indy for presenting an action packed day full of pit crew activity Maybe someone should consider another tire manufacturer? Seems to me, Firestone provides the tires for the 500 Please do use the excuse of the car of tomorrow and track conditions, they have had this problem all year
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#37
07-29-2008 01:44 PM |
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re: re: Whatever Quote: Originally Posted by Josh W Well I got to say!!!!!!! I was ready when the green flag dropped... yes Nascar and Goodyear made a poor selection of tires for the brickyard 400! But what alot of you all have to remember is we all make mistakes.....this is dumb....First off Anyone who blames Indy is retarted and wants a refund I drove more then most of you people the atomosphere was amazing all the Brickyard people were EXTREMELY NICE! SO JUST LAY OFF INDY....ok yah Nascar made a poor choice but it wasnt the tires it was the COT car It weighs more on the right side and reacts different! Goodyear blame them to but why? I PAYED ALOT TOO PEOPLE AND I HAVE 2 SAY YAH THE RACE WASNT THE GREATEST.......BTW INDY IS AMAZING....PLEASE JUST DROP IT FOR US WHO WANT TO SEE ANOTHER BRICKYARD 400....AND THE REASON FOR THE CAUTIONS WAS FOR SAFTEY!!!! I WAS A DALE SR FAN AND I DONT WANNA SEE SOMEONE KILLED AGAIN!!! **** I'm not saying me and my brother did not have a great overall experience. We enjoyed the pre-race stuff and the never-ending parade of race fans, and freindliy folks sitting around us. I'm just saying I bought a ticket to an auto race from IMS and feel a little let down that "someone" did not catch this minor detal. Prior races led me to believe there was going to be fast, competitive cars zooming by. Thanks.
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#38
07-29-2008 01:52 PM |
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re: Tony where are you? Quote: Originally Posted by indyfan1978 Goodyear needs to pull their heads out of their a$$es and say they did not carry through with the proper testing! I sent Goodyear an email, this is the reply I got this morning.......... Sent by: Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company Consumer Relations 728 1144 East Market Street Akron, OH 44316 Voice #: 800.321.2136 Fax #: 330.796.6829 Thank you for contacting our web site and for your interest in NASCAR. We knew that this race was going to be a challenge for us. We tested at the track and brought the tire that, based upon what we knew, had the best combination of grip and wear. However, Indianapolis is a very abrasive track and this was the first time the "Car of Tomorrow" had raced there. No matter how hard we try, Sunday racing conditions can't be duplicated in a test. Every other time that we have raced at Indianapolis Motor Speedway, the track has retained rubber on its surface, leading to better tire wear as the race has progressed. This time, that didn't happen which was a variable that nobody expected. We always have a contingency plan and in this case had tires planned for next weeks race in Ponoco mounted and ready if needed. They were not used.
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#39
07-29-2008 02:07 PM |
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conflicted Like others, I find it hard to blame the Speedway, but at the same time I'm finding it hard to press the button renewing my $600 worth of tickets.
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#40
07-29-2008 02:37 PM |
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Hopes for a better 2009 Brickyard 400 Joie Chitwood's kind wishes for a more competitive 2009 NASCAR race at Indy are appreciated, but they are about as satisfying as pablum. Our family spent $600 on tickets, $100 on food, $80 on gas and drove a total of six hours to and from the track to be bored nearly to death for several hours in the sweltering heat. If Goodyear, NASCAR and IMS can't come up with a solution before next year, I suggest you line up concert entertainment to continue throughout the race. At least we'd have something interesting to watch. Here's another alternative: talk to Bob Newton of Hoosier Racing Tires. Perhaps Goodyear's time and Indy has come and gone.
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